i'm joy reid in for melissa harris-perry. you may have seen the documentary "hubris" here on msnbc which rachel maddow hosted. it reairs this weekend and you will see matt lauer ask former president george w. bush this question. >> was there any consideration of apologizing to the american people? >> i mean apologizing mean that the decision was a wrong decision. i don't believe it was a wrong decision. >> there are no signs on the horizon that an apology from the iraq war from those who got us into this week. whether it would help our understanding abroad is the subject of our round table. with us at the table is ru rula jebreal and marc ginsberg and patrick murphy as well as david harris and andy shallal. i was asking you before we went to break, rula, how the iraq war and the bush administration going into it and the obvious lies that were exposed not long afterwards, how did that view the country? >> it was considered an illegal war because suddenly they wanted to bypass the yunited nations. >> punishing people. >> even j